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	<title>Comments on: 401k, Traditional IRA and Roth IRA Savings Not The Same</title>
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		<title>By: MoneyNing</title>
		<link>http://moneyning.com/retirement/401k-traditional-ira-and-roth-ira-savings-not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-49410</link>
		<dc:creator>MoneyNing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 01:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should be able to contribute $5k to a traditional IRA for your spouse if you are married, file a joint tax return. However, I would highly recommend talking to a certified CPA about your situation because depending on your circumstances, you may find that other arrangements are even more beneficial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should be able to contribute $5k to a traditional IRA for your spouse if you are married, file a joint tax return. However, I would highly recommend talking to a certified CPA about your situation because depending on your circumstances, you may find that other arrangements are even more beneficial.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://moneyning.com/retirement/401k-traditional-ira-and-roth-ira-savings-not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-49304</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, If i contrubute $16500 to my company 401K can i also contribute $5000 to a tax defered traditional IRA for my spouse if she has not income,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, If i contrubute $16500 to my company 401K can i also contribute $5000 to a tax defered traditional IRA for my spouse if she has not income,</p>
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		<title>By: John Coktostin</title>
		<link>http://moneyning.com/retirement/401k-traditional-ira-and-roth-ira-savings-not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-39011</link>
		<dc:creator>John Coktostin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 19:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article and great post. Yeah the tax system can seem a little unfair with higher income people getting taxed more then lower income people. But it&#039;s really the only way that the system will work it would fall apart if we were all taxed the same the lower income people wouldn&#039;t be able to afford the tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article and great post. Yeah the tax system can seem a little unfair with higher income people getting taxed more then lower income people. But it&#8217;s really the only way that the system will work it would fall apart if we were all taxed the same the lower income people wouldn&#8217;t be able to afford the tax.</p>
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		<title>By: Hashim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hashim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, you can contribute the maximum $16500 to a 401k and also contribute to a Roth IRA ($5000) if your employer allows it. Here&#039;s some additional info:

Coverage under a retirement plan maintained by your employer does not affect your ability to contribute to a Roth IRA. If you meet the requirements described below, you can contribute to a Roth IRA even if you participate in an employer plan such as a 401k. Even if you contribute to a Roth 401k account, your contributions to a Roth IRA are unaffected.  

But you have to meet certain requirements, they are your adjusted gross income cannot exceed certain limits and your income must be qualifying compensation

Compensation or Alimony Income
For each year you contribute to a Roth IRA, you (or your spouse, if you file jointly) must have compensation or alimony income. If you don&#039;t have compensation or alimony income you can&#039;t contribute, even if you have other types of income. And if your compensation or alimony income is less than the maximum contribution, the amount you can contribute is reduced.
Source: http://www.definerothira.com

Compensation income. Compensation income includes amounts you receive from your employer of course, but also includes self-employment income from your own business or from a partnership that generates this type of income. There&#039;s a special rule that treats alimony income as compensation income, just for purposes of determining how much you can contribute to an IRA. That means you can contribute to an IRA if you receive taxable alimony payments, even if you don&#039;t work for a living. Compensation income does not include investment income, pension income or non-taxable income. 
Spousal Roth IRA. If you file jointly with a spouse who has compensation income, you don&#039;t need compensation income of your own. You can contribute to a Roth IRA based on your spouse&#039;s compensation income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, you can contribute the maximum $16500 to a 401k and also contribute to a Roth IRA ($5000) if your employer allows it. Here&#8217;s some additional info:</p>
<p>Coverage under a retirement plan maintained by your employer does not affect your ability to contribute to a Roth IRA. If you meet the requirements described below, you can contribute to a Roth IRA even if you participate in an employer plan such as a 401k. Even if you contribute to a Roth 401k account, your contributions to a Roth IRA are unaffected.  </p>
<p>But you have to meet certain requirements, they are your adjusted gross income cannot exceed certain limits and your income must be qualifying compensation</p>
<p>Compensation or Alimony Income<br />
For each year you contribute to a Roth IRA, you (or your spouse, if you file jointly) must have compensation or alimony income. If you don&#8217;t have compensation or alimony income you can&#8217;t contribute, even if you have other types of income. And if your compensation or alimony income is less than the maximum contribution, the amount you can contribute is reduced.<br />
Source: <a href="http://www.definerothira.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.definerothira.com</a></p>
<p>Compensation income. Compensation income includes amounts you receive from your employer of course, but also includes self-employment income from your own business or from a partnership that generates this type of income. There&#8217;s a special rule that treats alimony income as compensation income, just for purposes of determining how much you can contribute to an IRA. That means you can contribute to an IRA if you receive taxable alimony payments, even if you don&#8217;t work for a living. Compensation income does not include investment income, pension income or non-taxable income.<br />
Spousal Roth IRA. If you file jointly with a spouse who has compensation income, you don&#8217;t need compensation income of your own. You can contribute to a Roth IRA based on your spouse&#8217;s compensation income.</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyNing</title>
		<link>http://moneyning.com/retirement/401k-traditional-ira-and-roth-ira-savings-not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-26107</link>
		<dc:creator>MoneyNing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 02:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can contribute to both Traditional IRA and Roth in the same calendar year, but the maximum combined must be $5,000 or less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can contribute to both Traditional IRA and Roth in the same calendar year, but the maximum combined must be $5,000 or less.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://moneyning.com/retirement/401k-traditional-ira-and-roth-ira-savings-not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-26106</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 02:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the answers. One additional question on item 3: did you mean that she can only put 5000 ROTH or 5000 Traditional IRA but not both? she doesn&#039;t have 401K at work so she can only put 5000 total between both IRAs? please confirm. thx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the answers. One additional question on item 3: did you mean that she can only put 5000 ROTH or 5000 Traditional IRA but not both? she doesn&#8217;t have 401K at work so she can only put 5000 total between both IRAs? please confirm. thx.</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyNing</title>
		<link>http://moneyning.com/retirement/401k-traditional-ira-and-roth-ira-savings-not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-25599</link>
		<dc:creator>MoneyNing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 01:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Unfortunately, all IRAs need to be separately owned, so you will need one account while she needs the other. I wish they could change this too, but it is the way it is to protect us since it&#039;s OUR OWN retirement.

2. You can contribute to a 401k or a traditional IRA, but not both at the same time. You can however contribute to a 401k, and a ROTH IRA on top of that. So it&#039;s $16,500 tax deferred and $5,000 after tax dollars.

3. The total of your IRAs can only be $5,000 for 2010 if you are under 50 years old. So even though your wife doesn&#039;t have a 401k, she can&#039;t go over the contribution limit.

Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Unfortunately, all IRAs need to be separately owned, so you will need one account while she needs the other. I wish they could change this too, but it is the way it is to protect us since it&#8217;s OUR OWN retirement.</p>
<p>2. You can contribute to a 401k or a traditional IRA, but not both at the same time. You can however contribute to a 401k, and a ROTH IRA on top of that. So it&#8217;s $16,500 tax deferred and $5,000 after tax dollars.</p>
<p>3. The total of your IRAs can only be $5,000 for 2010 if you are under 50 years old. So even though your wife doesn&#8217;t have a 401k, she can&#8217;t go over the contribution limit.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://moneyning.com/retirement/401k-traditional-ira-and-roth-ira-savings-not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-25590</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have question or two:

1.	between me and my wife, can we put 10,000 (for 2009 yr – I know the deadline was today but I am just asking) in ROTH IRA? Could we open a joint IRA account at lets say Fidelity and have 10,000 deposited or do we have to have separate accounts since one person limit is only 5,000? 
2.	I have 401K at work and wife does not (she has pension but she won’t qualify for another yr). I know I can put 16500 max (again assuming 2009 limits) in my 401K but I am confused between 401K, traditional and Roth. If I did put 16500 in my employer 401K, can I also put 5000 in traditional IRA and 5000 in Roth IRA? That is total 26500 per person allowed to be deposited in retirement account, correct? I do know that only 21500 is pre tax and 5000 in Roth is after tax.
3.	since my wife doesn’t have 401K at work, can she only do traditoinal and Roth totaling 10000? Is there any other way to save more? (I know she has option to get paid on 1099 basis vs W2 fm work – would that be beneficial over getting paid in W2? 

Thanks a bunch guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have question or two:</p>
<p>1.	between me and my wife, can we put 10,000 (for 2009 yr – I know the deadline was today but I am just asking) in ROTH IRA? Could we open a joint IRA account at lets say Fidelity and have 10,000 deposited or do we have to have separate accounts since one person limit is only 5,000?<br />
2.	I have 401K at work and wife does not (she has pension but she won’t qualify for another yr). I know I can put 16500 max (again assuming 2009 limits) in my 401K but I am confused between 401K, traditional and Roth. If I did put 16500 in my employer 401K, can I also put 5000 in traditional IRA and 5000 in Roth IRA? That is total 26500 per person allowed to be deposited in retirement account, correct? I do know that only 21500 is pre tax and 5000 in Roth is after tax.<br />
3.	since my wife doesn’t have 401K at work, can she only do traditoinal and Roth totaling 10000? Is there any other way to save more? (I know she has option to get paid on 1099 basis vs W2 fm work – would that be beneficial over getting paid in W2? </p>
<p>Thanks a bunch guys.</p>
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		<title>By: SimplyForties</title>
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		<dc:creator>SimplyForties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a nice, clear recitation of the considerations we must keep in mind as we slog along towards retirement.  Hopefully when the time comes something will indeed be left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a nice, clear recitation of the considerations we must keep in mind as we slog along towards retirement.  Hopefully when the time comes something will indeed be left.</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyNing</title>
		<link>http://moneyning.com/retirement/401k-traditional-ira-and-roth-ira-savings-not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-17955</link>
		<dc:creator>MoneyNing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything starts small but like a snowball rolling down the hill, it gets there.  Keep investing and putting money away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything starts small but like a snowball rolling down the hill, it gets there.  Keep investing and putting money away.</p>
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