Comments on: Do waiters always deserve the tip? http://moneyning.com/personal/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/ A personal finance blog where we share insights on carefully saving money, investing, early retirement, mortgages, stocks because the little things matter in achieving financial freedom! Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:01:45 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Zach http://moneyning.com/personal/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-20692 Zach Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:15:19 +0000 http://blog.davidmillions.com/2007/04/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/#comment-20692 a more un thought ignorant response has never been said. a more un thought ignorant response has never been said.

]]> By: Zach http://moneyning.com/personal/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-20691 Zach Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:12:34 +0000 http://blog.davidmillions.com/2007/04/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/#comment-20691 Ok, I have been waiting tables for around two years now at a mid-range place. What have I noticed about tipping? People do get uncomfortable and feel obligated when they get their bill and realize they just spent 60$ for two people and decide that they will just leave 6$ because hey thats 6$ more than I had before they got there. This is completely untrue. The six dollars gets divided out to my bartender and my bus boy(S) at the end of the night so in actuality they just gave me 5$. Less than 10%. The bottom line is that people can have their bitter opinion about tipping being an unfair practice and go to sub way or mcdonalds where YOU get the food and YOU speak directly to the cashier and YOU get your 3rd or 4th refill of soda and YOU take up your tray to the trash when finished. That is why places are called full service... you are there to be taken care of. If this isn't provided in a timely fashion by all means do not leave 20%, but be more conscious about what the other side of the table goes through. Ok, I have been waiting tables for around two years now at a mid-range place. What have I noticed about tipping? People do get uncomfortable and feel obligated when they get their bill and realize they just spent 60$ for two people and decide that they will just leave 6$ because hey thats 6$ more than I had before they got there. This is completely untrue. The six dollars gets divided out to my bartender and my bus boy(S) at the end of the night so in actuality they just gave me 5$. Less than 10%. The bottom line is that people can have their bitter opinion about tipping being an unfair practice and go to sub way or mcdonalds where YOU get the food and YOU speak directly to the cashier and YOU get your 3rd or 4th refill of soda and YOU take up your tray to the trash when finished. That is why places are called full service… you are there to be taken care of. If this isn’t provided in a timely fashion by all means do not leave 20%, but be more conscious about what the other side of the table goes through.

]]> By: Ashley http://moneyning.com/personal/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-20682 Ashley Sun, 18 Oct 2009 04:59:15 +0000 http://blog.davidmillions.com/2007/04/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/#comment-20682 Wow, I must say after reading this I am absolutely appalled. It is because of people like you that servers have bad days. Because a prick like you in sitting in their section, asking for refills when you know they are running their a55es off then leaves nothing. If you think I have reduced myself to the level of a slave because I walk almost 2 miles over the night, multi-tasked by taking care of 5 tables, and managed to deal with a person like you with a smile on my face to receive your 'tip' then I guess I am just like any other working citizen in the world. I PROVIDE A SERVICE TO RECEIVE LEGAL TENDER (a.k.a MONEY) AS COMPENSATION FOR DOING A JOB. What ever you do for a living... you are a slave to your own boss who fills your pockets. Do everyone a favor and go to Mcdonalds for your next meal, becuase trust me, you really don't wanna mess with the people who bring your food. ;) Wow, I must say after reading this I am absolutely appalled. It is because of people like you that servers have bad days. Because a prick like you in sitting in their section, asking for refills when you know they are running their a55es off then leaves nothing. If you think I have reduced myself to the level of a slave because I walk almost 2 miles over the night, multi-tasked by taking care of 5 tables, and managed to deal with a person like you with a smile on my face to receive your ‘tip’ then I guess I am just like any other working citizen in the world. I PROVIDE A SERVICE TO RECEIVE LEGAL TENDER (a.k.a MONEY) AS COMPENSATION FOR DOING A JOB.

What ever you do for a living… you are a slave to your own boss who fills your pockets. Do everyone a favor and go to Mcdonalds for your next meal, becuase trust me, you really don’t wanna mess with the people who bring your food. ;)

]]> By: garettowner http://moneyning.com/personal/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-20673 garettowner Sat, 17 Oct 2009 14:08:53 +0000 http://blog.davidmillions.com/2007/04/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/#comment-20673 i am a server with a degree in buisness and i just got my paycheck for this week it was 57 hours and it was for 52.27 that is what i make with out tips so if you think it is ok to not tip even with good service then stay the f*** home i am a server with a degree in buisness and i just got my paycheck for this week it was 57 hours and it was for 52.27 that is what i make with out tips so if you think it is ok to not tip even with good service then stay the f*** home

]]> By: helpin http://moneyning.com/personal/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-18722 helpin Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:03:33 +0000 http://blog.davidmillions.com/2007/04/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/#comment-18722 all said and done......restaurants can advertise the price of a meal as $15... ....sounds fair enough..............HOWEVER................add tax and tip and your meal is quite a bit more than $15..............customer beware. all said and done……restaurants can advertise the price of a meal as $15…
….sounds fair enough…………..HOWEVER…………….add tax and tip and your meal is quite a bit more than $15…………..customer beware.

]]> By: Austin http://moneyning.com/personal/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-18227 Austin Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:46:28 +0000 http://blog.davidmillions.com/2007/04/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/#comment-18227 you've obviously never waited tables. servers are paid less than $3 an hour in America so there is a difference between the cashier at the book store making min. wage or more for standing in one place for several hours. and no, the service is not included in the price of the food on the menu; also, if employers were responsible for paying the waitstaff a set rate, that would up the cost of operation, therefore making the food more expensive, so that would end up costing the customer more because at least they "willingly" give up the vast fortune of $3 to the ungrateful server who has to pretend to laugh at the "witty" comment or smile until the muscles in there face hurt. even if one does receive poor service, maybe the server is having a bad day and slacking off, causing them to make less money than usual, even though the same situation happens to employees who are paid a set amount or salary. you’ve obviously never waited tables. servers are paid less than $3 an hour in America so there is a difference between the cashier at the book store making min. wage or more for standing in one place for several hours. and no, the service is not included in the price of the food on the menu; also, if employers were responsible for paying the waitstaff a set rate, that would up the cost of operation, therefore making the food more expensive, so that would end up costing the customer more because at least they “willingly” give up the vast fortune of $3 to the ungrateful server who has to pretend to laugh at the “witty” comment or smile until the muscles in there face hurt. even if one does receive poor service, maybe the server is having a bad day and slacking off, causing them to make less money than usual, even though the same situation happens to employees who are paid a set amount or salary.

]]> By: LWHYBREW http://moneyning.com/personal/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-17446 LWHYBREW Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:42:02 +0000 http://blog.davidmillions.com/2007/04/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/#comment-17446 MyOwnMillions, I am a waitress, a very courteous and attentive one at that, and NO...not everyone tips in some way, some people stiff regardless of the level of service they received...you might say "well you must be subjective, they must have received sub par service if they did not tip." also untrue...I have had many tables who have taken the time out of their meals to compliment and thank me, raving about my personal and kind service...then they leave two dollars for a fifty dollar meal..or even five dollars on the same meal, which if you have ever waited tables, you know this is a BAD tip for the level of service. I agree, something should be done ( I make 2.13/hour of course i agree!) but reducing tips and increasing hourly wage is NOT going to happen, so how about people either become educated on the proper tip practices or just don't eat out at service restaurants if they can't afford to TIP WELL based on service. MyOwnMillions,
I am a waitress, a very courteous and attentive one at that, and NO…not everyone tips in some way, some people stiff regardless of the level of service they received…you might say “well you must be subjective, they must have received sub par service if they did not tip.” also untrue…I have had many tables who have taken the time out of their meals to compliment and thank me, raving about my personal and kind service…then they leave two dollars for a fifty dollar meal..or even five dollars on the same meal, which if you have ever waited tables, you know this is a BAD tip for the level of service.

I agree, something should be done ( I make 2.13/hour of course i agree!) but reducing tips and increasing hourly wage is NOT going to happen, so how about people either become educated on the proper tip practices or just don’t eat out at service restaurants if they can’t afford to TIP WELL based on service.

]]> By: Christina http://moneyning.com/personal/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-16594 Christina Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:55:58 +0000 http://blog.davidmillions.com/2007/04/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/#comment-16594 WOW!!!! I had no idea that this many people cared(or didn"t) about servers! Jorge, I beg you, come work with me as a server in a fine dining restaurant that I work for in Orlando. You my friend, would not last a day. I have a college education, by the way. I have been in the restaurant world for 15 years; managed most of them, and went back to serving. The bottom line is this; I can not, nor can most people these days, just get another job. If you can not afford to go out to eat, don't. If you get bad service, do as I do; take the tip and give it to the manager and explain what was wrong with your service. Another thing one should consider: Did YOU have a bad day and maybe were a little abrupt, or inconsiderate with your server. Think about a colleague or customer that YOU have to service or confer with. Is their attitude reflective on the service or attention that you pay to them? Does THEIR attitude reflect the tone of the moment or the passion of your commitment to excellence? These my friends, are simple questions you should ask yourselves before you complain, undertip,insult, or suggest another livelihood to another server. ( yes, server is the PC term) One other thing to consider, is that I am your server, not chef. So when your steak comes out overcooked, guess what.... I didn't cook it. Talk to a manager to complain about food temperatures, and incorrectly prepared meals, don't take it out on your server (or their tip) your server is just that, server, not cook or chef. P.S. Servers are HUMANS too. We have bad days at work just like YOU! Usually because of rude and inconsiderate guests that they had to wait on that day. WOW!!!! I had no idea that this many people cared(or didn”t) about servers! Jorge, I beg you, come work with me as a server in a fine dining restaurant that I work for in Orlando. You my friend, would not last a day. I have a college education, by the way. I have been in the restaurant world for 15 years; managed most of them, and went back to serving. The bottom line is this; I can not, nor can most people these days, just get another job. If you can not afford to go out to eat, don’t. If you get bad service, do as I do; take the tip and give it to the manager and explain what was wrong with your service. Another thing one should consider: Did YOU have a bad day and maybe were a little abrupt, or inconsiderate with your server. Think about a colleague or customer that YOU have to service or confer with. Is their attitude reflective on the service or attention that you pay to them? Does THEIR attitude reflect the tone of the moment or the passion of your commitment to excellence? These my friends, are simple questions you should ask yourselves before you complain, undertip,insult, or suggest another livelihood to another server. ( yes, server is the PC term) One other thing to consider, is that I am your server, not chef. So when your steak comes out overcooked, guess what…. I didn’t cook it. Talk to a manager to complain about food temperatures, and incorrectly prepared meals, don’t take it out on your server (or their tip) your server is just that, server, not cook or chef. P.S. Servers are HUMANS too. We have bad days at work just like YOU! Usually because of rude and inconsiderate guests that they had to wait on that day.

]]> By: Jorge http://moneyning.com/personal/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-16490 Jorge Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:38:17 +0000 http://blog.davidmillions.com/2007/04/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/#comment-16490 The bottom line is this: Most people do tip. Most waitstaff at reasonable to nice restaurants make very good money for the work they do (which is unskilled and air conditioned) because of the tips. If you think you are not getting paid enough because people aren't tipping, get another job. No one is forcing you to wait tables. You do it because the money is good enough, and you can't get a better paying job. $17 dollars an hour is good money for a high school education, I don't care how hard the job is. You want something better, become a salesman, go to college, or start at the bottom of some industry and work yourself into management. More money can be had in this world, but not for waiting tables. The bottom line is this: Most people do tip. Most waitstaff at reasonable to nice restaurants make very good money for the work they do (which is unskilled and air conditioned) because of the tips. If you think you are not getting paid enough because people aren’t tipping, get another job. No one is forcing you to wait tables. You do it because the money is good enough, and you can’t get a better paying job.

$17 dollars an hour is good money for a high school education, I don’t care how hard the job is. You want something better, become a salesman, go to college, or start at the bottom of some industry and work yourself into management. More money can be had in this world, but not for waiting tables.

]]> By: Anonymous http://moneyning.com/personal/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-16299 Anonymous Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:33:59 +0000 http://blog.davidmillions.com/2007/04/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/#comment-16299 Here are the reasons you should tip: 1. Your food prices are based on the restaurants ability to pay their Front of House staff with tips. If you dont tip, people wont be servers or the law of servers making under minimum will not happen and you will pay in the end. How would you like to play 18 dollars for your burger that use to cost 8 because the restaurant cant pay all employees state wages without taking it out on someone....you 2. If you feel like you shouldnt be responsible for tipping someone talk to your congressmen because Im pretty sure he didnt come up with the law and enact all himself. 3. If you leave no tip because you feel we didnt do an exceptional job does this mean your employer should deduct your pay if you dont do an exceptional job week in and week out. No they would just fire you. Simple solution to all this....tip your server out, if you have a problem speak to a manager express the problem and im sure they will take care of it on the bill. The person will get spoken to, learn their mistakes and either fix them or leave but either way i bet you wont have the same problem again. Why the need to leave nothing? 4. Last thing imagine you wait on an 8 top and you give them solid service and their bill is 300 dollars and they leave nothing. That solid service from that server will now cost him at least 9 dollars depending on restaurants tip out policy. Can i go to your job and charge you because i decided to come in? Here are the reasons you should tip:

1. Your food prices are based on the restaurants ability to pay their Front of House staff with tips. If you dont tip, people wont be servers or the law of servers making under minimum will not happen and you will pay in the end. How would you like to play 18 dollars for your burger that use to cost 8 because the restaurant cant pay all employees state wages without taking it out on someone….you
2. If you feel like you shouldnt be responsible for tipping someone talk to your congressmen because Im pretty sure he didnt come up with the law and enact all himself.
3. If you leave no tip because you feel we didnt do an exceptional job does this mean your employer should deduct your pay if you dont do an exceptional job week in and week out. No they would just fire you. Simple solution to all this….tip your server out, if you have a problem speak to a manager express the problem and im sure they will take care of it on the bill. The person will get spoken to, learn their mistakes and either fix them or leave but either way i bet you wont have the same problem again. Why the need to leave nothing?
4. Last thing imagine you wait on an 8 top and you give them solid service and their bill is 300 dollars and they leave nothing. That solid service from that server will now cost him at least 9 dollars depending on restaurants tip out policy. Can i go to your job and charge you because i decided to come in?

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