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	<title>Comments on: What Do You Think About Variable Universal Insurance (VUL)? &#8211; Money Mailbox</title>
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		<title>By: Tiersa</title>
		<link>http://moneyning.com/money-mailbox/what-do-you-think-about-variable-universal-insurance-vul-money-mailbox/comment-page-1/#comment-28795</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiersa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kris, Yikes, unless the $600 a month is something that you can easily afford to live without right now it sounds like the agent did not take into consideration what your real needs are.  

I for one see the value of the investment is VUL for the right person and the right circumstances (I&#039;ve seen it work), but I wouldn&#039;t use it as a priority for retirement for sure. 

Saving as much as we can for retirement shouldn&#039;t put us in the poor house at the same time, regardless of who helps us make our financial decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kris, Yikes, unless the $600 a month is something that you can easily afford to live without right now it sounds like the agent did not take into consideration what your real needs are.  </p>
<p>I for one see the value of the investment is VUL for the right person and the right circumstances (I&#8217;ve seen it work), but I wouldn&#8217;t use it as a priority for retirement for sure. </p>
<p>Saving as much as we can for retirement shouldn&#8217;t put us in the poor house at the same time, regardless of who helps us make our financial decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 02:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My in-laws had Adjust Complife policy with NW Mutual on my husband when he was a kid, so a couple of years ago they sent their insurance officer to us to sign us up for life insurance.  Being very financially unsavvy, we ended up getting a half mil Adjust Complife policy, which the insurance agent said would help with our retirement.  Now we&#039;re stuck paying almost $600 a month on a life insurance policy.  We have to pay for 21 years before the guaranteed cash surrender value equals the amount we put in.  The estimated (non-guaranteed) value in 21 years is at a return of 4%.  

Right now we max out our Roth IRA&#039;s and pay for this policy.  I am continuously torn between just keeping it in this account because it forces us to save (regardless of the low percentage rate), or stopping payment and losing the front loaded $6000 (yes, that&#039;s how much the front load fees were).  I had no idea of any of this, and am sort of grumpy about it all.  My dad is pretty savvy in the market (unfortunately we didn&#039;t consult him before we signed) and used to be an insurance agent, and both he and his stockbroker are shocked that we have a policy like this.  He&#039;s worried because we&#039;re forcing so much of our money into a subpar investment vehicle at the same time that we&#039;re trying to start a family.  

Anyway, there&#039;s my sad life insurance story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My in-laws had Adjust Complife policy with NW Mutual on my husband when he was a kid, so a couple of years ago they sent their insurance officer to us to sign us up for life insurance.  Being very financially unsavvy, we ended up getting a half mil Adjust Complife policy, which the insurance agent said would help with our retirement.  Now we&#8217;re stuck paying almost $600 a month on a life insurance policy.  We have to pay for 21 years before the guaranteed cash surrender value equals the amount we put in.  The estimated (non-guaranteed) value in 21 years is at a return of 4%.  </p>
<p>Right now we max out our Roth IRA&#8217;s and pay for this policy.  I am continuously torn between just keeping it in this account because it forces us to save (regardless of the low percentage rate), or stopping payment and losing the front loaded $6000 (yes, that&#8217;s how much the front load fees were).  I had no idea of any of this, and am sort of grumpy about it all.  My dad is pretty savvy in the market (unfortunately we didn&#8217;t consult him before we signed) and used to be an insurance agent, and both he and his stockbroker are shocked that we have a policy like this.  He&#8217;s worried because we&#8217;re forcing so much of our money into a subpar investment vehicle at the same time that we&#8217;re trying to start a family.  </p>
<p>Anyway, there&#8217;s my sad life insurance story.</p>
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		<title>By: CreditShout</title>
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		<dc:creator>CreditShout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m appreciative that you make a point to distinguish between insurance policies and investments. There is definitely a difference and I&#039;m glad I was reminded of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m appreciative that you make a point to distinguish between insurance policies and investments. There is definitely a difference and I&#8217;m glad I was reminded of this.</p>
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		<title>By: CD Rates Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>CD Rates Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For any investment keep in mind, no one is working for free.  So all advice should be kept in that perspective.  Hopefully, any &quot;adviser&quot; always has your best interests in mind and not their pocket book.

Even Tax professionals can be making money with referrals.  There is nothing wrong with people earning a living.  Just make sure you are comfortable and seek lots of input as was done here.

I do have a small policy for my wife that is structured similarly.  But again, its main purpose was to protect against the horrible.  I have a much larger Term policy on myself.  Frankly, I haven&#039;t been too impressed with the &quot;gains&quot; on the whole life policy so don&#039;t do it as an investment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For any investment keep in mind, no one is working for free.  So all advice should be kept in that perspective.  Hopefully, any &#8220;adviser&#8221; always has your best interests in mind and not their pocket book.</p>
<p>Even Tax professionals can be making money with referrals.  There is nothing wrong with people earning a living.  Just make sure you are comfortable and seek lots of input as was done here.</p>
<p>I do have a small policy for my wife that is structured similarly.  But again, its main purpose was to protect against the horrible.  I have a much larger Term policy on myself.  Frankly, I haven&#8217;t been too impressed with the &#8220;gains&#8221; on the whole life policy so don&#8217;t do it as an investment.</p>
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