Comments on: My Employer Might Start Charging Me Money For Being Fat http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/ A personal finance blog where we share insights on carefully saving money, investing, frugal living, coupons, promo codes because the little things matter in achieving financial freedom! Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:49:42 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: car product http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-13704 car product Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:46:35 +0000 http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/#comment-13704 Wow, very great tips. I will use this for my blog. Thanks Wow, very great tips. I will use this for my blog. Thanks

]]> By: Bobby's Johnson http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-8976 Bobby's Johnson Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:31:38 +0000 http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/#comment-8976 I personally feel that if they want to single out heavy weight or smoking they should take into consideration the gay population and the cost of AIDS research and current drugs prescribed to combat the illness. If I smoke I am making a choice. However I can quit and remiss. If I take part in permiscuous activities that result in hiv/aids. My life is now dependant on drugs and have no choice. The flip side being Cancer treatment is far less expensive than aids. What if I fight for fun on the off time and do cage matches? The Companies are simply looking for a way to bolster their bottom line and give their children a better christmas each year without caring for the employee. Perfect case in point, Person A works for major coporation for 47yrs. retires and gets a whopping pension of 2200 a month and some flowers and maybe a watch or necklace. CEO from same company leave after 7yrs, gets a 25million seperation bonous, a house in florida and so on. The point, Person A made the CEO's job possible but the gratitude is only for those named in the profile. I personally feel that if they want to single out heavy weight or smoking they should take into consideration the gay population and the cost of AIDS research and current drugs prescribed to combat the illness. If I smoke I am making a choice. However I can quit and remiss. If I take part in permiscuous activities that result in hiv/aids. My life is now dependant on drugs and have no choice. The flip side being Cancer treatment is far less expensive than aids. What if I fight for fun on the off time and do cage matches?

The Companies are simply looking for a way to bolster their bottom line and give their children a better christmas each year without caring for the employee. Perfect case in point, Person A works for major coporation for 47yrs. retires and gets a whopping pension of 2200 a month and some flowers and maybe a watch or necklace. CEO from same company leave after 7yrs, gets a 25million seperation bonous, a house in florida and so on. The point, Person A made the CEO’s job possible but the gratitude is only for those named in the profile.

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]]> By: Nicholle http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-7242 Nicholle Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:49:33 +0000 http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/#comment-7242 A person is obese if their BMI (body mass index, a ratio of weight to height) is 30 to 35 (above 35, the classification is morbidly obese). This causes all kinds of dangerous health outcomes, including heart disease, diabetes, joint issues, systemic issues (fatty liver, kidney strain, etc)...the list goes on. This is an epidemic in our country, with obesity rates having grown exponentially, overburdening health care and raising costs for everyone, not to mention cutting into company productivity. We know that smoking kills. The evidence that obesity kills is mounting and persuasive. I do NOT believe that companies are infringing on the rights of employees by charging for smoking and obesity. You still have a right to smoke, and you still have a right to be overfat. Companies are charged hefty (no pun intended) fees for this, and it makes sense to pass them along to the applicable people. $5? $10? That amounts to nothing aside the total cost of the unhealthy behaviors themselves. For those who are defensive, I suggest that, consciously or unconsciously, you know that smoking and obesity-contributive behaviors are unhealthy and you probably deal with these behaviors personally. The reality is, they cost your company extra money, which they are not even obligated to pay in the first place. Count yourself blessed that you have access to health care at all, unlike so many Americans. For those who are outraged, I suggest you stand up and take some responsibility for your choices. A person is obese if their BMI (body mass index, a ratio of weight to height) is 30 to 35 (above 35, the classification is morbidly obese). This causes all kinds of dangerous health outcomes, including heart disease, diabetes, joint issues, systemic issues (fatty liver, kidney strain, etc)…the list goes on. This is an epidemic in our country, with obesity rates having grown exponentially, overburdening health care and raising costs for everyone, not to mention cutting into company productivity.

We know that smoking kills. The evidence that obesity kills is mounting and persuasive. I do NOT believe that companies are infringing on the rights of employees by charging for smoking and obesity. You still have a right to smoke, and you still have a right to be overfat. Companies are charged hefty (no pun intended) fees for this, and it makes sense to pass them along to the applicable people. $5? $10? That amounts to nothing aside the total cost of the unhealthy behaviors themselves.

For those who are defensive, I suggest that, consciously or unconsciously, you know that smoking and obesity-contributive behaviors are unhealthy and you probably deal with these behaviors personally. The reality is, they cost your company extra money, which they are not even obligated to pay in the first place. Count yourself blessed that you have access to health care at all, unlike so many Americans.

For those who are outraged, I suggest you stand up and take some responsibility for your choices.

]]> By: Nikota http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-5229 Nikota Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:46:49 +0000 http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/#comment-5229 I am an employee of a company such as the ones mentioned above. They have forceably put into effect a "Smoking Premium" (they changed the original name for this deduction from "Smoking Fee", nice try, right? lol) that requires all employees and employee spouses who smoke to sign a statement as to how long your tobacco use has been. It also states if you even smoke a cigar ONCE A YEAR, you must pay $50.00 a check or $100.00 a month. And anyone who does not submit to these deductions, will be terminated. My employer has not put into effect a "Obesity Premium" but ironically, the people THAT would effect are all the upper management...so that will never happen. Most ironic to the situation, at least to me, is that we are a Payroll/Human Resource company that has over 1000+ clients to whom we offer assistance to employees when their prospective employer is treating them unfairly. My job is to research these issues and make sure the both the employer and employee are not being abused or being retaliated against...... Sorry for the long post, but this issue makes my blood boil. I know I should/need to quit. But I find it unspeakable that a company should attempt to mandate your lifestyle and your lifestyle choices.... Thanks for letting me vent :o) I am an employee of a company such as the ones mentioned above. They have forceably put into effect a “Smoking Premium” (they changed the original name for this deduction from “Smoking Fee”, nice try, right? lol) that requires all employees and employee spouses who smoke to sign a statement as to how long your tobacco use has been. It also states if you even smoke a cigar ONCE A YEAR, you must pay $50.00 a check or $100.00 a month. And anyone who does not submit to these deductions, will be terminated. My employer has not put into effect a “Obesity Premium” but ironically, the people THAT would effect are all the upper management…so that will never happen.
Most ironic to the situation, at least to me, is that we are a Payroll/Human Resource company that has over 1000+ clients to whom we offer assistance to employees when their prospective employer is treating them unfairly. My job is to research these issues and make sure the both the employer and employee are not being abused or being retaliated against……

Sorry for the long post, but this issue makes my blood boil. I know I should/need to quit. But I find it unspeakable that a company should attempt to mandate your lifestyle and your lifestyle choices….
Thanks for letting me vent :o )

]]> By: Ryan http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-5096 Ryan Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:56:28 +0000 http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/#comment-5096 Nice discusion here!!! Nice discusion here!!!

]]> By: Mack14o http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-3259 Mack14o Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:51:33 +0000 http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/#comment-3259 did any one see the last episode of Boston Legal in witch the fictional lawyer deny Crain fire one of his employees for being fat and the judge who presides over the case is morbidly obese and after hearing both sides she just dismisses the case would this really happen? Also on topic I have to say take $10 dollars out of ones pay check for being obese doesn't seem right. my last girl friend was obese and she missed an awful lot of work. every day your absent from you company you cost your company money. so when you think of it as a business issue it makes since. but as a human issues and compassion issue its wrong. when your thinking about your bottom line whats more expensive employees that hardly show up to work or employees who when they show up are pissed off and don't do the work they were hired to do. in closing you catch more flies with honey than vinegar did any one see the last episode of Boston Legal in witch the fictional lawyer deny Crain fire one of his employees for being fat and the judge who presides over the case is morbidly obese and after hearing both sides she just dismisses the case would this really happen? Also on topic I have to say take $10 dollars out of ones pay check for being obese doesn’t seem right. my last girl friend was obese and she missed an awful lot of work. every day your absent from you company you cost your company money. so when you think of it as a business issue it makes since. but as a human issues and compassion issue its wrong. when your thinking about your bottom line whats more expensive employees that hardly show up to work or employees who when they show up are pissed off and don’t do the work they were hired to do. in closing you catch more flies with honey than vinegar

]]> By: MoneyNing http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-1687 MoneyNing Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:06:06 +0000 http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/#comment-1687 linda: It's hard to say what the real motives are but it's all about saving money for the companies unfortunately. linda: It’s hard to say what the real motives are but it’s all about saving money for the companies unfortunately.

]]> By: linda http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-1677 linda Sun, 09 Sep 2007 08:29:57 +0000 http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/#comment-1677 This is more punishment for the common people in order to put more money on the bottom line and a bigger bonus in the ceo's 600 million dollar salary. Who cares about the little people. Don't use this as punishment. I agree with the higher premium and a discount for healthier choices, but this really isn't about any of that. This is more punishment for the common people in order to put more money on the bottom line and a bigger bonus in the ceo’s 600 million dollar salary. Who cares about the little people. Don’t use this as punishment. I agree with the higher premium and a discount for healthier choices, but this really isn’t about any of that.

]]> By: MoneyNing http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-1314 MoneyNing Tue, 14 Aug 2007 05:26:31 +0000 http://moneyning.com/misc/my-employer-might-start-charging-me-money-for-being-fat/#comment-1314 Calvin: Agreed :) DK: I think we all understand that fat or people who smoke raises the potential medical bills. However, I don't think people feel it's fair that these two things are being singled out. Calvin: Agreed :)

DK: I think we all understand that fat or people who smoke raises the potential medical bills. However, I don’t think people feel it’s fair that these two things are being singled out.

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