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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://moneyning.com/investing/stop-the-layoffs-and-so-will-the-stock-market-slide/comment-page-1/#comment-13567</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is time to write to our Congress members!

I never thought I would say that Gov. Schwarzenegger has a good idea, but he does.  If every state and every company (including banks), would stop cutting employees and cut employee hours for everyone (two Fridays a month or more) and cut overhead costs, tons of money would be saved by all.  Outsourcing should be dropped in favor of keeping employees. For salaried employees, this would mean a pay cut equal to the number of hours cut (easily calculable).  This would eliminate the need to pay unemployment and keep those people insured as well.

When you have a wound you can heal it, when you cut off an arm or leg, healing is a much bigger job and often requires more resources.  Keep everyone working and there will be fewer people collecting unemployment, fewer people defaulting on their credit payments, and fewer foreclosures!  

Encourage telecommuting as it saves office space, electricity, gasoline, and the environment just to mention a few things.

The reward for these companies and companies that bring back the employees they laid off, should be a giant tax cut - talk to the companies to see what they need.  EVERYONE BENEFITS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is time to write to our Congress members!</p>
<p>I never thought I would say that Gov. Schwarzenegger has a good idea, but he does.  If every state and every company (including banks), would stop cutting employees and cut employee hours for everyone (two Fridays a month or more) and cut overhead costs, tons of money would be saved by all.  Outsourcing should be dropped in favor of keeping employees. For salaried employees, this would mean a pay cut equal to the number of hours cut (easily calculable).  This would eliminate the need to pay unemployment and keep those people insured as well.</p>
<p>When you have a wound you can heal it, when you cut off an arm or leg, healing is a much bigger job and often requires more resources.  Keep everyone working and there will be fewer people collecting unemployment, fewer people defaulting on their credit payments, and fewer foreclosures!  </p>
<p>Encourage telecommuting as it saves office space, electricity, gasoline, and the environment just to mention a few things.</p>
<p>The reward for these companies and companies that bring back the employees they laid off, should be a giant tax cut &#8211; talk to the companies to see what they need.  EVERYONE BENEFITS!</p>
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		<title>By: whalejetwrench</title>
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		<dc:creator>whalejetwrench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...well someone needs to tell UPS this...they are starting a series of layoffs that will affect in upwards of 60 aircraft mechanics across the united states while they still consistantly subcontract maintence to overseas venders....the work is available within the U.S. if they reduced the routine overseas contracting of maintenance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;well someone needs to tell UPS this&#8230;they are starting a series of layoffs that will affect in upwards of 60 aircraft mechanics across the united states while they still consistantly subcontract maintence to overseas venders&#8230;.the work is available within the U.S. if they reduced the routine overseas contracting of maintenance.</p>
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		<title>By: UH2L.com</title>
		<link>http://moneyning.com/investing/stop-the-layoffs-and-so-will-the-stock-market-slide/comment-page-1/#comment-11224</link>
		<dc:creator>UH2L.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nauy makes some good points but you shouldn&#039;t be so dismissive of the point of the post.  It&#039;s amazing how at large companies, an executive gets millions of dollars in bonuses and then turns around and tells employees that times are tough and that some must be laid off.  If that person was a true leader, she/he would give up that bonus to retain jobs.  And there are always things that can be done when times are slow, like training/maintenance for blue collar workers or training/R&amp;D/process improvements for white collar ones.

And another major argument against lay-offs are the fact that when people are let go, companies lose hard to replace people with skills and knowledge that may go to competitors.  When business picks up, it costs a lot of money to recruit, hire, and train new people.

Lay-offs are often short sighted band-aids to increase shareholder returns and executive bonuses.  Sometimes they are necessary, but corporations are way too quick to use them.  Leaders often forget my earlier point that employees make great customers.  Laid-off people can&#039;t afford to be anybody&#039;s customers.

Atul
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nauy makes some good points but you shouldn&#8217;t be so dismissive of the point of the post.  It&#8217;s amazing how at large companies, an executive gets millions of dollars in bonuses and then turns around and tells employees that times are tough and that some must be laid off.  If that person was a true leader, she/he would give up that bonus to retain jobs.  And there are always things that can be done when times are slow, like training/maintenance for blue collar workers or training/R&amp;D/process improvements for white collar ones.</p>
<p>And another major argument against lay-offs are the fact that when people are let go, companies lose hard to replace people with skills and knowledge that may go to competitors.  When business picks up, it costs a lot of money to recruit, hire, and train new people.</p>
<p>Lay-offs are often short sighted band-aids to increase shareholder returns and executive bonuses.  Sometimes they are necessary, but corporations are way too quick to use them.  Leaders often forget my earlier point that employees make great customers.  Laid-off people can&#8217;t afford to be anybody&#8217;s customers.</p>
<p>Atul<br />
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		<title>By: nauy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nauy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is too stupid for me not to respond.

You obviously don&#039;t run a business.  When you have excess capacity and you don&#039;t anticipate any turn around anytime soon, layoffs are the logical and efficient thing to do.  If you don&#039;t have layoffs, people would just sit around doing nothing while collecting money.  It&#039;s better for them to find another job where they&#039;ll be more productive.  To do otherwise is socialism.  

When people leave their jobs, they don&#039;t cash out their 401Ks.  Doing so would incur 10% penalty plus taxes.  They generally leave it where it is (they usually allowed some amount of time) or roll it over to another 401K or IRA plan.  Of course, if they can demonstrate financial hardship, they can withdraw without penalty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is too stupid for me not to respond.</p>
<p>You obviously don&#8217;t run a business.  When you have excess capacity and you don&#8217;t anticipate any turn around anytime soon, layoffs are the logical and efficient thing to do.  If you don&#8217;t have layoffs, people would just sit around doing nothing while collecting money.  It&#8217;s better for them to find another job where they&#8217;ll be more productive.  To do otherwise is socialism.  </p>
<p>When people leave their jobs, they don&#8217;t cash out their 401Ks.  Doing so would incur 10% penalty plus taxes.  They generally leave it where it is (they usually allowed some amount of time) or roll it over to another 401K or IRA plan.  Of course, if they can demonstrate financial hardship, they can withdraw without penalty.</p>
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		<title>By: marci</title>
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		<dc:creator>marci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the market falls, not all of us are upset and frustrated.  I personally feel it was something that needed to happen for the long term good.  Kind of like disciplining your child so that he/she will learn from the mistake and grow on to better things.    As long as I let-it-ride, my money will still be there when the market recovers. I actually bought more, not sold.

It&#039;s a time tho when I am grateful to be working for a locally owned non-union family business. There may be hours adjusted, but no one will be losing health insurance by being laid off. They are truly caring about the families that their employees are supporting and see the need to keep everyone working as much as possible. They know when the upturn comes, they will need their people back full time and overtime, so they are willing to ride it out.

They are actually encouraging me to go back to 40 hrs instead of the 33 I work now.... not gonna happen in my world as I want the time off with my grandkids, but nice to know it is there if I needed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the market falls, not all of us are upset and frustrated.  I personally feel it was something that needed to happen for the long term good.  Kind of like disciplining your child so that he/she will learn from the mistake and grow on to better things.    As long as I let-it-ride, my money will still be there when the market recovers. I actually bought more, not sold.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a time tho when I am grateful to be working for a locally owned non-union family business. There may be hours adjusted, but no one will be losing health insurance by being laid off. They are truly caring about the families that their employees are supporting and see the need to keep everyone working as much as possible. They know when the upturn comes, they will need their people back full time and overtime, so they are willing to ride it out.</p>
<p>They are actually encouraging me to go back to 40 hrs instead of the 33 I work now&#8230;. not gonna happen in my world as I want the time off with my grandkids, but nice to know it is there if I needed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap! I never knew 45% of workers cash out their 401(k)s when leaving a job. My shock over that aside, great post. 

My company just axed 10% of its workforce yesterday. I think you may be onto something; but the problem I see is that companies sometimes lay people off for short term benefits. It&#039;s about how do we stay profitable THIS YEAR? How do we make our debt payments NEXT MONTH? 

They&#039;re not looking at the long-term economic picture--they&#039;re not even looking at their own company&#039;s long-term picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap! I never knew 45% of workers cash out their 401(k)s when leaving a job. My shock over that aside, great post. </p>
<p>My company just axed 10% of its workforce yesterday. I think you may be onto something; but the problem I see is that companies sometimes lay people off for short term benefits. It&#8217;s about how do we stay profitable THIS YEAR? How do we make our debt payments NEXT MONTH? </p>
<p>They&#8217;re not looking at the long-term economic picture&#8211;they&#8217;re not even looking at their own company&#8217;s long-term picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://moneyning.com/investing/stop-the-layoffs-and-so-will-the-stock-market-slide/comment-page-1/#comment-11042</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, the layoffs are short-sighted and ill-advised.  They don&#039;t lead to anything of worth in the long run, and it doesn&#039;t help the economy to have unemployed people out there (suddenly without health insurance, no less...)

Finally... isn&#039;t &quot;naysayers&quot; one word?

Jerry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, the layoffs are short-sighted and ill-advised.  They don&#8217;t lead to anything of worth in the long run, and it doesn&#8217;t help the economy to have unemployed people out there (suddenly without health insurance, no less&#8230;)</p>
<p>Finally&#8230; isn&#8217;t &#8220;naysayers&#8221; one word?</p>
<p>Jerry</p>
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		<title>By: UH2L.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>UH2L.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add to your reasons the following...

If companies keep laying people off, they shrink the customer pool of potential buyers of their own products!  This may not be so true of thing like soap and jeans, but it is very true of large purchases like major appliances and cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add to your reasons the following&#8230;</p>
<p>If companies keep laying people off, they shrink the customer pool of potential buyers of their own products!  This may not be so true of thing like soap and jeans, but it is very true of large purchases like major appliances and cars.</p>
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		<title>By: No Debt Plan</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Debt Plan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nay sayers my friend :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nay sayers my friend <img src='http://moneyning.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cute post :)  I don&#039;t think we can ever tell how much laying people off is hurting stocks but there is no doubt that it&#039;s not helping!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cute post <img src='http://moneyning.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I don&#8217;t think we can ever tell how much laying people off is hurting stocks but there is no doubt that it&#8217;s not helping!!</p>
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