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		<title>By: Narendra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Narendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 14:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was about to meet with an adviser at the bank to consider MLCD. After reading all the pro &amp; cons listed here, I cancelled the appointment. Thank you folks, particularly the eye opener who said protect your savings with regular CD&#039;s and play with investment funds with investments of YOUR choosing rather than theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was about to meet with an adviser at the bank to consider MLCD. After reading all the pro &amp; cons listed here, I cancelled the appointment. Thank you folks, particularly the eye opener who said protect your savings with regular CD&#8217;s and play with investment funds with investments of YOUR choosing rather than theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought one of these from Wells Fargo in December 08.  It just matured and I got my original investment back but ZERO interest.  Huh?  The market was up over 50% during this period, but unless I&#039;m missing something, I received no interest whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought one of these from Wells Fargo in December 08.  It just matured and I got my original investment back but ZERO interest.  Huh?  The market was up over 50% during this period, but unless I&#8217;m missing something, I received no interest whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad I decided to read these posting before investing in a MLCD.  I have no idea why my broker is pushing these except that there must be some incentive for him.  When I went back to the investment house to ask questions I was told he was gone and his replacement wanted nothing to do with these investments.  I had him put my money in Apple which is now up 30 % and a MLCD isn&#039;t even a memory anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad I decided to read these posting before investing in a MLCD.  I have no idea why my broker is pushing these except that there must be some incentive for him.  When I went back to the investment house to ask questions I was told he was gone and his replacement wanted nothing to do with these investments.  I had him put my money in Apple which is now up 30 % and a MLCD isn&#8217;t even a memory anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: less is more</title>
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		<dc:creator>less is more</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 04:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading all the posts on this site, both pro and con I decided that MLCD&#039;s are just too complicated for me to fully understand and that a reg  CD with a locked in interest rate and time period is the way to go for me. Besides I dont want to pay taxes on interest that I might not ever see, as expressed in many blogs on this site.  When my banker stated to double talk me about the investment i realized its too complicated for even him to sell with a straight face</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading all the posts on this site, both pro and con I decided that MLCD&#8217;s are just too complicated for me to fully understand and that a reg  CD with a locked in interest rate and time period is the way to go for me. Besides I dont want to pay taxes on interest that I might not ever see, as expressed in many blogs on this site.  When my banker stated to double talk me about the investment i realized its too complicated for even him to sell with a straight face</p>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMPORTANT
 MLCDs, issued and managed by Union Bank, N.A., are sold through UnionBanc Investment Services LLC, a registered broker-dealer, investment advisor, member FINRA/SIPC, and subsidiary of Union Bank, N.A., and:
 
• Require that investment suitability be determined individually for each investor as the financial instruments described herein may not be suitable for all investors.
 • Are CDs of Union Bank, N.A., and are held in the name of Union Bank, as Custodian.
 • Are FDIC insured within permissible limits. It is the customer&#039;s responsibility to make sure that all funds held with Union Bank are considered when reviewing for FDIC coverage.
 • Are NOT insured, backed, or guaranteed by SIPC or Broker. 
• Involve significant risks, including risks not typically associated with fixed-rate or floating-rate CDs or debt instruments such as liquidity and market risks. The payment at maturity may yield a return that is less than that of a traditional certificate of deposit or debt instrument of a comparable maturity.
 • Union Bank may offer more than one MLCD at any given time. Other MLCDs may be available with other indices, including but not limited to the S&amp;P 500®, Dow Jones Industrial Average, DJUBS, foreign currency baskets, or various commodity indices.
 • May be subject to a cap on returns. Returns may be subject to a cap either on a quarterly basis and/or on the overall return potential at maturity.
 • May have provisions that allow Union Bank to call the MLCD prior to maturity, which could result in a lower return on the MLCD.
 • Could result in a significant loss of principal if sold or redeemed prior to maturity. Any losses incurred due to the sale or redemption prior to maturity are not FDIC insured. Due to the extremely limited resale market for this product, investors may be unable to sell their MLCD prior to maturity and, should they do so, they may receive more or less than their original investment.
 • In taxable accounts, interest is declared annually and taxed as ordinary income, which is based on an estimated yield for the MLCD even though no interest may be paid until maturity. The ordinary income tax rate may be a higher rate than the lower capital gains rate normally paid by investors on longer-term investments. This annual declared interest raises the investor’s cost basis, reducing tax consequences at maturity. Consult your tax advisor for information relating to your individual tax situation.
 
Prior to purchase, please read the Preliminary Disclosure Supplement and Disclosure Statement carefully as this provides additional important information about Union Bank&#039;s Market-Linked CDs.





























©2012Union</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMPORTANT<br />
 MLCDs, issued and managed by Union Bank, N.A., are sold through UnionBanc Investment Services LLC, a registered broker-dealer, investment advisor, member FINRA/SIPC, and subsidiary of Union Bank, N.A., and:</p>
<p>• Require that investment suitability be determined individually for each investor as the financial instruments described herein may not be suitable for all investors.<br />
 • Are CDs of Union Bank, N.A., and are held in the name of Union Bank, as Custodian.<br />
 • Are FDIC insured within permissible limits. It is the customer&#8217;s responsibility to make sure that all funds held with Union Bank are considered when reviewing for FDIC coverage.<br />
 • Are NOT insured, backed, or guaranteed by SIPC or Broker.<br />
• Involve significant risks, including risks not typically associated with fixed-rate or floating-rate CDs or debt instruments such as liquidity and market risks. The payment at maturity may yield a return that is less than that of a traditional certificate of deposit or debt instrument of a comparable maturity.<br />
 • Union Bank may offer more than one MLCD at any given time. Other MLCDs may be available with other indices, including but not limited to the S&amp;P 500®, Dow Jones Industrial Average, DJUBS, foreign currency baskets, or various commodity indices.<br />
 • May be subject to a cap on returns. Returns may be subject to a cap either on a quarterly basis and/or on the overall return potential at maturity.<br />
 • May have provisions that allow Union Bank to call the MLCD prior to maturity, which could result in a lower return on the MLCD.<br />
 • Could result in a significant loss of principal if sold or redeemed prior to maturity. Any losses incurred due to the sale or redemption prior to maturity are not FDIC insured. Due to the extremely limited resale market for this product, investors may be unable to sell their MLCD prior to maturity and, should they do so, they may receive more or less than their original investment.<br />
 • In taxable accounts, interest is declared annually and taxed as ordinary income, which is based on an estimated yield for the MLCD even though no interest may be paid until maturity. The ordinary income tax rate may be a higher rate than the lower capital gains rate normally paid by investors on longer-term investments. This annual declared interest raises the investor’s cost basis, reducing tax consequences at maturity. Consult your tax advisor for information relating to your individual tax situation.</p>
<p>Prior to purchase, please read the Preliminary Disclosure Supplement and Disclosure Statement carefully as this provides additional important information about Union Bank&#8217;s Market-Linked CDs.</p>
<p>©2012Union</p>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every one I asked about early termination said that not only aren&#039;t there markets to sell these mlcds early but you would no doubt lose much of your principal if you were able to sell them early. Plus, you would of paid taxes on money you would of lost as well. My banker at Wells Fargo said he never was able to sell a mlcd before maturity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every one I asked about early termination said that not only aren&#8217;t there markets to sell these mlcds early but you would no doubt lose much of your principal if you were able to sell them early. Plus, you would of paid taxes on money you would of lost as well. My banker at Wells Fargo said he never was able to sell a mlcd before maturity.</p>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to thank everyone for their information before I made a serious error in investing due to the pressure of my investment banker. Once I started to ask questions raised on this site about taxes I&#039;d have to pay on money-interest I might  not get and how to redeem early if need be, THERE is no market to re sell these mlcds he said. I realized that the only one not making money is ME the investor. I re-invested my cd into a 5 year cd paying 2.25 a year and know what I have each year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to thank everyone for their information before I made a serious error in investing due to the pressure of my investment banker. Once I started to ask questions raised on this site about taxes I&#8217;d have to pay on money-interest I might  not get and how to redeem early if need be, THERE is no market to re sell these mlcds he said. I realized that the only one not making money is ME the investor. I re-invested my cd into a 5 year cd paying 2.25 a year and know what I have each year.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 06:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was one of the  first customers to purchase a MLCD from WF.  All I can say its been a nightmare  for my tax accountant and  hated paying extra taxes each year on  that investment.  After the MLCD came due I had a tax credit, its a cd that turned out to be more problems then it was worth and if i had locked it up for the same amt of time in a conventional cd i would of been ahead  financially.  For the averageCD holder, stay with the convential CD and know what you have and if you need the money its there, abit some interest loss but you will have your principal which you lose if you cash in a mlcd early</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was one of the  first customers to purchase a MLCD from WF.  All I can say its been a nightmare  for my tax accountant and  hated paying extra taxes each year on  that investment.  After the MLCD came due I had a tax credit, its a cd that turned out to be more problems then it was worth and if i had locked it up for the same amt of time in a conventional cd i would of been ahead  financially.  For the averageCD holder, stay with the convential CD and know what you have and if you need the money its there, abit some interest loss but you will have your principal which you lose if you cash in a mlcd early</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Cuevas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor Cuevas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see comments going back two years on this. I hardly know where to begin. I will address the original five bullet points. Before that, let me remind everyone this is a CD. Stop comparing it to a stock investments or retirement accounts. It&#039;s just a CD...a place to hold money you don&#039;t need right away in a safe place where you can earn some decent interest. That&#039;s all it is. Some people are over analyzing it.

Possible Gotchas
1. Early withdrawal penalties: It&#039;s a CD folks. If you take the money before maturity, you may have a penalty. That&#039;s a disadvantage for any CD. Again, do not compare to a stock, mutual, fund, money market account, etc. It&#039;s a CD. You may be interested to know that if you terminate the MLCD prematurely, it&#039;s basically a sale and you may end up making money instead of losing it depending on the value of the underlying stocks or indexes upon which the CD is based. So there&#039;s no disadvantage here really. Anyone knows going in if you terminate a CD prematurely, you may have a penalty. Simple.

2. Bad Tax Rates: It&#039;s a CD folks. I know I keep reminding you. CDs aren&#039;t securities. Obviously there are no long term capital gains. Why is this even a consideration. CDs aren&#039;t retirement vehicles. If you want long term capital gains rates, why even talk about a CD. 

3.  Ugly Tax Treatment: It says above  a quirky thing about this CD is you have to report interest each year as income. It&#039;s a CD folks! That&#039;s the way CDs work. What&#039;s quirky about that. The advantage a MLCD has over a traditional CD is that you get to receive that interest each year without penalty. It&#039;s available now to spend or reinvest. A traditional CD will penalize you for taking that gain out unless you set it up to pay you the interest. And you still have to claim the interest as income. So again, no disadvantage here when you understand it&#039;s a CD folks. That&#039;s how they work. It&#039;s not a security.

4. Possible Upper Limit: How&#039;s is that a disadvantage. It&#039;s a CD! If I have a CD that can return up to 9 percent in any given year (if that&#039;s the cap), why would that be a disadvantage when the best long term traditional CDs are paying 1.25%. Hey, a safe investment with no risk that&#039;s FDIC insured, issued by a bank, that can pay me five times more than a regular CD....why is that a disadvantage. This is safe, guaranteed money. I didn&#039;t put it in the CD to make the big bucks. I didn&#039;t put it in there as a rainy day fund to pay for car repairs if my transmission goes out. That&#039;s what savings and money market accounts are for. It&#039;s money I probably don&#039;t need over the next five or six years, but I don&#039;t want to risk it...and I&#039;d like to make some decent interest on it. It&#039;s simple folks.

5.  Dividend Reinvestment: This one really is kind of silly. I don&#039;t mean to be mean here. If you want dividend reinvestment, buy stocks or mutual funds that invest heavily in dividend paying investments. Why would a CD even come to your mind. Let&#039;s see, I&#039;m thinking about investing in something that will pay me dividends because I like those dividends. I want to take them in cash or let them automatically buy more stock for me. Let&#039;s look at CDs and some other things. NO. You wouldn&#039;t even think about CDs would you. 

Look folks...if you want to talk about securities, talk about securities and the advantages and disadvantages of different kinds of securities. If you want to talk about CDs you talk about bank instruments like checking accounts, savings accounts, money market accounts, and CDs. You compare CDs to bank instruments. People who looks at MLCDs are CD shoppers. Not securities shoppers. If someone has decided to purchase a CD because they want a CD as part of their overall short term strategy, then MLCDs are an excellent alternative. You then can compare different MLCDs available, and then compare them to other traditional CDs. You don&#039;t compare them to securities. Only people who are extremely adverse to the market or any risk should look at MLCDs as a long term retirement vehicle. Then they can open an IRA and fund them with MLCDs.

Bottom line....CDs are CDs and Securities and Securities. Compare apples to apples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see comments going back two years on this. I hardly know where to begin. I will address the original five bullet points. Before that, let me remind everyone this is a CD. Stop comparing it to a stock investments or retirement accounts. It&#8217;s just a CD&#8230;a place to hold money you don&#8217;t need right away in a safe place where you can earn some decent interest. That&#8217;s all it is. Some people are over analyzing it.</p>
<p>Possible Gotchas<br />
1. Early withdrawal penalties: It&#8217;s a CD folks. If you take the money before maturity, you may have a penalty. That&#8217;s a disadvantage for any CD. Again, do not compare to a stock, mutual, fund, money market account, etc. It&#8217;s a CD. You may be interested to know that if you terminate the MLCD prematurely, it&#8217;s basically a sale and you may end up making money instead of losing it depending on the value of the underlying stocks or indexes upon which the CD is based. So there&#8217;s no disadvantage here really. Anyone knows going in if you terminate a CD prematurely, you may have a penalty. Simple.</p>
<p>2. Bad Tax Rates: It&#8217;s a CD folks. I know I keep reminding you. CDs aren&#8217;t securities. Obviously there are no long term capital gains. Why is this even a consideration. CDs aren&#8217;t retirement vehicles. If you want long term capital gains rates, why even talk about a CD. </p>
<p>3.  Ugly Tax Treatment: It says above  a quirky thing about this CD is you have to report interest each year as income. It&#8217;s a CD folks! That&#8217;s the way CDs work. What&#8217;s quirky about that. The advantage a MLCD has over a traditional CD is that you get to receive that interest each year without penalty. It&#8217;s available now to spend or reinvest. A traditional CD will penalize you for taking that gain out unless you set it up to pay you the interest. And you still have to claim the interest as income. So again, no disadvantage here when you understand it&#8217;s a CD folks. That&#8217;s how they work. It&#8217;s not a security.</p>
<p>4. Possible Upper Limit: How&#8217;s is that a disadvantage. It&#8217;s a CD! If I have a CD that can return up to 9 percent in any given year (if that&#8217;s the cap), why would that be a disadvantage when the best long term traditional CDs are paying 1.25%. Hey, a safe investment with no risk that&#8217;s FDIC insured, issued by a bank, that can pay me five times more than a regular CD&#8230;.why is that a disadvantage. This is safe, guaranteed money. I didn&#8217;t put it in the CD to make the big bucks. I didn&#8217;t put it in there as a rainy day fund to pay for car repairs if my transmission goes out. That&#8217;s what savings and money market accounts are for. It&#8217;s money I probably don&#8217;t need over the next five or six years, but I don&#8217;t want to risk it&#8230;and I&#8217;d like to make some decent interest on it. It&#8217;s simple folks.</p>
<p>5.  Dividend Reinvestment: This one really is kind of silly. I don&#8217;t mean to be mean here. If you want dividend reinvestment, buy stocks or mutual funds that invest heavily in dividend paying investments. Why would a CD even come to your mind. Let&#8217;s see, I&#8217;m thinking about investing in something that will pay me dividends because I like those dividends. I want to take them in cash or let them automatically buy more stock for me. Let&#8217;s look at CDs and some other things. NO. You wouldn&#8217;t even think about CDs would you. </p>
<p>Look folks&#8230;if you want to talk about securities, talk about securities and the advantages and disadvantages of different kinds of securities. If you want to talk about CDs you talk about bank instruments like checking accounts, savings accounts, money market accounts, and CDs. You compare CDs to bank instruments. People who looks at MLCDs are CD shoppers. Not securities shoppers. If someone has decided to purchase a CD because they want a CD as part of their overall short term strategy, then MLCDs are an excellent alternative. You then can compare different MLCDs available, and then compare them to other traditional CDs. You don&#8217;t compare them to securities. Only people who are extremely adverse to the market or any risk should look at MLCDs as a long term retirement vehicle. Then they can open an IRA and fund them with MLCDs.</p>
<p>Bottom line&#8230;.CDs are CDs and Securities and Securities. Compare apples to apples.</p>
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		<title>By: rty</title>
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		<dc:creator>rty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 03:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is THE WORST investment you can ever make in a BANK. Don&#039;t listen to the bankers on this site, they are making the hidden commissions and you will be PAYING interest at 25% on money you may never see.  HOW can they see any investment that you PAY federal taxes on money you don&#039;t have but sent to you a 1099 each year? STAY away from this scam I&#039;ve payed out 3200 extra in federal taxes and still have a year before my mlcd matures with no idea of how much  it will pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is THE WORST investment you can ever make in a BANK. Don&#8217;t listen to the bankers on this site, they are making the hidden commissions and you will be PAYING interest at 25% on money you may never see.  HOW can they see any investment that you PAY federal taxes on money you don&#8217;t have but sent to you a 1099 each year? STAY away from this scam I&#8217;ve payed out 3200 extra in federal taxes and still have a year before my mlcd matures with no idea of how much  it will pay.</p>
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