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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 02:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jennifer,
RUN the hell away from this place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jennifer,<br />
RUN the hell away from this place.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://moneyning.com/housing/pros-and-cons-of-fixer-upper-home-or/comment-page-1/#comment-78594</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 02:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is EXACTLY correct.  Buy the cheapest house in the most expensive neighborhood you can afford.  Hands down - the BEST advice you&#039;re ever going to get.  Location, location, location!!!!!  And once you find that place, plant your family there and do not upgrade/move - whatever.  Let your investment finally start making money for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is EXACTLY correct.  Buy the cheapest house in the most expensive neighborhood you can afford.  Hands down &#8211; the BEST advice you&#8217;re ever going to get.  Location, location, location!!!!!  And once you find that place, plant your family there and do not upgrade/move &#8211; whatever.  Let your investment finally start making money for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://moneyning.com/housing/pros-and-cons-of-fixer-upper-home-or/comment-page-1/#comment-45287</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mom bought a fixer-upper when I was 2 years old.  I&#039;m 42 and she&#039;s still fixing it up!  Also, she should have sold the house in the late 1980&#039;s when the housing market was highest for her location.  Now, she&#039;s looking at downsizing and won&#039;t be able to sell it for what she thought it would be worth...not even close.  She has put tens of thousands into it over the years, and it looks nice, but the job is never done.  Then, if you have a family, that will suck money from your fixer-upper projects, and if there are any emergencies, those too will take away from your cash.  

Now, I purchased a townhouse, cheap!  I wanted the experience of doing-it-myself remodeling.  I maxed out my equity line (I know, wrong thing to do!) and did most of the work myself.  Then, I moved out of state and had to sell...in June of 2007!  Had I put it on the market six months sooner, I would have been able to sell it for roughly 70k more than I paid and I would&#039;ve paid down the equity line and walked away with money in my pocket.  But the opposite happened and I made barely enough to pay down the equity line.  In fact, I ended up with debt because I was still paying the mortgage even though I wasn&#039;t living there, while paying the mortgage on another home and making 25K less at my new job!!  What a nightmare!

So, a few years wiser I would say, go with the nice home!  If you really feel that you need to the experience of fixing up a house, then go for it.  I&#039;ve been there and done that and I have absolutely no desire to spend my time doing that ever again.  I will hire out!  Either way, it will cost you money.  But, think about what your time is worth too.  When I began remodeling my townhouse, I stopped going out with friends and quit most of my hobbies for two years, and I worked around the clock so I could get the job done and behind me.  But the truth is, once you start working on your home, you&#039;ll always find other projects that need to be done and well, you could become a prisoner to your home, just like my mom has for the last forty years!

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mom bought a fixer-upper when I was 2 years old.  I&#8217;m 42 and she&#8217;s still fixing it up!  Also, she should have sold the house in the late 1980&#8242;s when the housing market was highest for her location.  Now, she&#8217;s looking at downsizing and won&#8217;t be able to sell it for what she thought it would be worth&#8230;not even close.  She has put tens of thousands into it over the years, and it looks nice, but the job is never done.  Then, if you have a family, that will suck money from your fixer-upper projects, and if there are any emergencies, those too will take away from your cash.  </p>
<p>Now, I purchased a townhouse, cheap!  I wanted the experience of doing-it-myself remodeling.  I maxed out my equity line (I know, wrong thing to do!) and did most of the work myself.  Then, I moved out of state and had to sell&#8230;in June of 2007!  Had I put it on the market six months sooner, I would have been able to sell it for roughly 70k more than I paid and I would&#8217;ve paid down the equity line and walked away with money in my pocket.  But the opposite happened and I made barely enough to pay down the equity line.  In fact, I ended up with debt because I was still paying the mortgage even though I wasn&#8217;t living there, while paying the mortgage on another home and making 25K less at my new job!!  What a nightmare!</p>
<p>So, a few years wiser I would say, go with the nice home!  If you really feel that you need to the experience of fixing up a house, then go for it.  I&#8217;ve been there and done that and I have absolutely no desire to spend my time doing that ever again.  I will hire out!  Either way, it will cost you money.  But, think about what your time is worth too.  When I began remodeling my townhouse, I stopped going out with friends and quit most of my hobbies for two years, and I worked around the clock so I could get the job done and behind me.  But the truth is, once you start working on your home, you&#8217;ll always find other projects that need to be done and well, you could become a prisoner to your home, just like my mom has for the last forty years!</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: marci</title>
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		<dc:creator>marci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rent for 2 yrs at $850/month is $20,400.
House needs $15,000 in repairs.... Word to the wise - repairs almost always cost more than the estimates....
Difference as stated is $5400, or $225/month - meaning, if you spent that repair money, it would cost you $625/month for rent to stay there, plus your labor....   So you would not be exactly staying there for free.

Will that $15,000 drop any if you are able to do a lot of the labor involved?
Big items, like a roof, etc, would take a big cash outlay all at once - are you able to do that or will Granddad do that and you pay him back?

Make sure any updates will be worth the improvement - meaning value of the home would increase enough to make it worthwhile.

I don&#039;t know why you need proof of income to live in Grandpa&#039;s house nor to do the repairs - unless you are having to borrow money to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rent for 2 yrs at $850/month is $20,400.<br />
House needs $15,000 in repairs&#8230;. Word to the wise &#8211; repairs almost always cost more than the estimates&#8230;.<br />
Difference as stated is $5400, or $225/month &#8211; meaning, if you spent that repair money, it would cost you $625/month for rent to stay there, plus your labor&#8230;.   So you would not be exactly staying there for free.</p>
<p>Will that $15,000 drop any if you are able to do a lot of the labor involved?<br />
Big items, like a roof, etc, would take a big cash outlay all at once &#8211; are you able to do that or will Granddad do that and you pay him back?</p>
<p>Make sure any updates will be worth the improvement &#8211; meaning value of the home would increase enough to make it worthwhile.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why you need proof of income to live in Grandpa&#8217;s house nor to do the repairs &#8211; unless you are having to borrow money to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: marci</title>
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		<dc:creator>marci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update - January 2011 - I just bought another fixer upper, and will be renting out the one I have just finished renovating that I spoke about above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update &#8211; January 2011 &#8211; I just bought another fixer upper, and will be renting out the one I have just finished renovating that I spoke about above.</p>
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		<title>By: Vickie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vickie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My grandad has an older home that needs about 15,000.00 of repairs and updates done. He wants to keep it in his name, he is 78 yrs old and wants it just in case he gets ill and it needs to be sold to pay for expenses.  He is willing to let me live in it free for 2yrs until I&#039;m out of college if I fix it up. I am a single mom and am paying 850.00 rent now with an under the table week end job so there for no real proof of income. How can I do this???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grandad has an older home that needs about 15,000.00 of repairs and updates done. He wants to keep it in his name, he is 78 yrs old and wants it just in case he gets ill and it needs to be sold to pay for expenses.  He is willing to let me live in it free for 2yrs until I&#8217;m out of college if I fix it up. I am a single mom and am paying 850.00 rent now with an under the table week end job so there for no real proof of income. How can I do this???</p>
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		<title>By: jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you everyone for the advice, I really need as much as I can get. I won&#039;t move forward with that house as I think I better look some more. I will keep you posted on what&#039;s going on with this adventure which is the first major step of my life. I&#039;m glad i ran across this site, thank again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you everyone for the advice, I really need as much as I can get. I won&#8217;t move forward with that house as I think I better look some more. I will keep you posted on what&#8217;s going on with this adventure which is the first major step of my life. I&#8217;m glad i ran across this site, thank again.</p>
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		<title>By: marci</title>
		<link>http://moneyning.com/housing/pros-and-cons-of-fixer-upper-home-or/comment-page-1/#comment-19029</link>
		<dc:creator>marci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS - a land sale contract can be a wonderful way to buy and sell property - I&#039;ve done several buys and sells this way - but I always ALWAYS use a lawyer for the contract, and an escrow company to declare clear title to the property and get title insurance also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8211; a land sale contract can be a wonderful way to buy and sell property &#8211; I&#8217;ve done several buys and sells this way &#8211; but I always ALWAYS use a lawyer for the contract, and an escrow company to declare clear title to the property and get title insurance also.</p>
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		<title>By: marci</title>
		<link>http://moneyning.com/housing/pros-and-cons-of-fixer-upper-home-or/comment-page-1/#comment-19028</link>
		<dc:creator>marci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer - about that house.... how much will it be worth when  you have it all fixed up? (compare to the houses around it)... and how much $$ will it take to fix it up??   Now double that cost to fix it, as it always seems to double as it gets more involved the further into it you get....

Now - add the $30,000 and the cost of fixing it up.... Will it sell for that much when you are finished?    If you are going to have to put more money into it than it is worth, then I&#039;d run run run away from it.

And how good are you with the repair skills necessary for some of the do-it-yourself projects???

If the inspection shows that the foundation, roof, electrical, and plumbing are all solid, and there is no dry rot/termites, and if most of what you will have to do is cosmetic/patching/painting, then you might have found a good deal....   but also then check to make sure it is not a meth house or something similar that would make it unsaleable later on.    

If you buy, make sure you can get a clear title to the property, with no liens on it, and that the owner has the right to make the sale, and make sure the contract is iron tight - I&#039;d seriously use a lawyer - and that the interest rate is good and non-flexible.  Sounds like the down payment wouldn&#039;t even cover the closing costs tho - so something sounds fishy there.   

Also - if the house is not in your name (meaning the mortgagor keeps it in their name til you pay it off), then you will have trouble getting an equity loan against it for repairs, and you will have trouble getting contractors to work on it unless the owner will allow contractors notice to owner of intent to lien paperwork for the work being done.  

There&#039;s a LOT of homework to be done on this one, and a lot of questions to be answered, at least in my opinion, before I&#039;d touch this one :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer &#8211; about that house&#8230;. how much will it be worth when  you have it all fixed up? (compare to the houses around it)&#8230; and how much $$ will it take to fix it up??   Now double that cost to fix it, as it always seems to double as it gets more involved the further into it you get&#8230;.</p>
<p>Now &#8211; add the $30,000 and the cost of fixing it up&#8230;. Will it sell for that much when you are finished?    If you are going to have to put more money into it than it is worth, then I&#8217;d run run run away from it.</p>
<p>And how good are you with the repair skills necessary for some of the do-it-yourself projects???</p>
<p>If the inspection shows that the foundation, roof, electrical, and plumbing are all solid, and there is no dry rot/termites, and if most of what you will have to do is cosmetic/patching/painting, then you might have found a good deal&#8230;.   but also then check to make sure it is not a meth house or something similar that would make it unsaleable later on.    </p>
<p>If you buy, make sure you can get a clear title to the property, with no liens on it, and that the owner has the right to make the sale, and make sure the contract is iron tight &#8211; I&#8217;d seriously use a lawyer &#8211; and that the interest rate is good and non-flexible.  Sounds like the down payment wouldn&#8217;t even cover the closing costs tho &#8211; so something sounds fishy there.   </p>
<p>Also &#8211; if the house is not in your name (meaning the mortgagor keeps it in their name til you pay it off), then you will have trouble getting an equity loan against it for repairs, and you will have trouble getting contractors to work on it unless the owner will allow contractors notice to owner of intent to lien paperwork for the work being done.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a LOT of homework to be done on this one, and a lot of questions to be answered, at least in my opinion, before I&#8217;d touch this one <img src='http://moneyning.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MoneyNing</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoneyNing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason, putting 500 down plus paying 245 a month sounds more like renting than buying.  Make sure you get a contract that clearly states what is happening in this transaction.  When you buy a house that&#039;s this inexpensive, you will have to be able to fix everything up yourself.  I also suggest getting an appraiser and get the house checked for damages before you commit. Make sure that the house is in an average neighborhood because houses are inexpensive for a reason.

I am happy that you are looking for a house but I would be very skeptical about this one.  Be careful and do your due diligence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason, putting 500 down plus paying 245 a month sounds more like renting than buying.  Make sure you get a contract that clearly states what is happening in this transaction.  When you buy a house that&#8217;s this inexpensive, you will have to be able to fix everything up yourself.  I also suggest getting an appraiser and get the house checked for damages before you commit. Make sure that the house is in an average neighborhood because houses are inexpensive for a reason.</p>
<p>I am happy that you are looking for a house but I would be very skeptical about this one.  Be careful and do your due diligence.</p>
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