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		<title>By: Candice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 19:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is an old post, but I feel compelled to write this and tell you that your credit card company representative was a bit confused....and very wrong.

Your debt to limit ratio is comprised of your balances measured against your limits. The higher your limits and the lower your balances, the better your credit score will ultimately be (there are other factors, of course, that affect your score). In otherwords, lowering your credit card limits will HURT you when you go to apply for a mortgage.

Credit card companies are lowering credit limits left and right in an effort to minimize their losses during uncertain economic times. This sounds a bit like a dirty trick to me. 

I beg you...PLEASE take this post down or modify it. People who need accurate information are likely to be led astray by this and end up damaging their own credit scores by adhering to one customer service representative&#039;s misguided beliefs about how the credit system works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is an old post, but I feel compelled to write this and tell you that your credit card company representative was a bit confused&#8230;.and very wrong.</p>
<p>Your debt to limit ratio is comprised of your balances measured against your limits. The higher your limits and the lower your balances, the better your credit score will ultimately be (there are other factors, of course, that affect your score). In otherwords, lowering your credit card limits will HURT you when you go to apply for a mortgage.</p>
<p>Credit card companies are lowering credit limits left and right in an effort to minimize their losses during uncertain economic times. This sounds a bit like a dirty trick to me. </p>
<p>I beg you&#8230;PLEASE take this post down or modify it. People who need accurate information are likely to be led astray by this and end up damaging their own credit scores by adhering to one customer service representative&#8217;s misguided beliefs about how the credit system works.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know that she was correct in claiming that the credit limit is viewed as debt.  In fact, one very important factor in the calculation of your FICO score is your debt to credit limit ratio.  So, it is generally not advised to ask for your limit to be reduced.  However, you can get a low debt to credit limit ratio in two ways - either eliminate debt as much as possible (in which case it would be &#039;safe&#039; to lower your limits... no balance with a low limit is still a 0% debt to limit ratio) OR keep a higher limit and don&#039;t come close to it.  Still, I have NEVER heard anyone advise people to lower their credit card limits and in fact there are a number of recent articles talking about the hit people&#039;s FICO scores take when lenders choose to slash credit limits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know that she was correct in claiming that the credit limit is viewed as debt.  In fact, one very important factor in the calculation of your FICO score is your debt to credit limit ratio.  So, it is generally not advised to ask for your limit to be reduced.  However, you can get a low debt to credit limit ratio in two ways &#8211; either eliminate debt as much as possible (in which case it would be &#8217;safe&#8217; to lower your limits&#8230; no balance with a low limit is still a 0% debt to limit ratio) OR keep a higher limit and don&#8217;t come close to it.  Still, I have NEVER heard anyone advise people to lower their credit card limits and in fact there are a number of recent articles talking about the hit people&#8217;s FICO scores take when lenders choose to slash credit limits.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe that the rep gave you the correct info at all.  Maybe different lenders do things differently - especially nowadays.  But from my research - with banks, mortgage lenders, financial experts, and even home-owners - I was told (since I am looking to buy my first home within a year) that you want your credit card limits to be over $10,000 each - if possible.  Apparently that is some magic number...  Anyway - they use the average of all of your credit card (the limit minus the average balance that you carry) to help determine if you have good credit.  

One financial expert added that having many cards with over $10,000 as opposed to just a few MAY NOT (but it might)  help you depending on how the lender calculates risk and credit.  He said they may use the average limit of all cards and the average of all of your balances to determine your risk.  

The same expert added that a student loan - in good standing - may help increase your chances of getting a loan and even the amount.  He also added that car payments apparently are a very good thing - if you have a good payment history.  They treat that debt differently (proving that you can pay off somthing similiar to a mortgage - responsibly) - and it can help you get future loans.    

So as you can see - many, many different things apparently can help or hinder your getting a loan - and the amount of such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe that the rep gave you the correct info at all.  Maybe different lenders do things differently &#8211; especially nowadays.  But from my research &#8211; with banks, mortgage lenders, financial experts, and even home-owners &#8211; I was told (since I am looking to buy my first home within a year) that you want your credit card limits to be over $10,000 each &#8211; if possible.  Apparently that is some magic number&#8230;  Anyway &#8211; they use the average of all of your credit card (the limit minus the average balance that you carry) to help determine if you have good credit.  </p>
<p>One financial expert added that having many cards with over $10,000 as opposed to just a few MAY NOT (but it might)  help you depending on how the lender calculates risk and credit.  He said they may use the average limit of all cards and the average of all of your balances to determine your risk.  </p>
<p>The same expert added that a student loan &#8211; in good standing &#8211; may help increase your chances of getting a loan and even the amount.  He also added that car payments apparently are a very good thing &#8211; if you have a good payment history.  They treat that debt differently (proving that you can pay off somthing similiar to a mortgage &#8211; responsibly) &#8211; and it can help you get future loans.    </p>
<p>So as you can see &#8211; many, many different things apparently can help or hinder your getting a loan &#8211; and the amount of such.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think this is correct, at least in the US. It sounds like two separate things are getting jumbled together. Debt to income ratio applies to when you are getting a mortgage or loan. They only look at your actual debt to calculate it. Your looking at a girl who had a DTI of 60% when she bought her house, if you included my available credit it would be over 100% and I don&#039;t think they would have given me the loan.

Obviously getting a home loan depends on how good your credit is, which is partly based on your balance to credit limit ratio. A $5 balance on a $5000 limit is better than a $4500 balance on a $5000 limit. When you get your credit score it includes the 4 reasons your score is not higher, which can be too high a balance to limit ratio, too much available credit etc. Make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this is correct, at least in the US. It sounds like two separate things are getting jumbled together. Debt to income ratio applies to when you are getting a mortgage or loan. They only look at your actual debt to calculate it. Your looking at a girl who had a DTI of 60% when she bought her house, if you included my available credit it would be over 100% and I don&#8217;t think they would have given me the loan.</p>
<p>Obviously getting a home loan depends on how good your credit is, which is partly based on your balance to credit limit ratio. A $5 balance on a $5000 limit is better than a $4500 balance on a $5000 limit. When you get your credit score it includes the 4 reasons your score is not higher, which can be too high a balance to limit ratio, too much available credit etc. Make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Kepler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Kepler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether true or not, I&#039;m fairly sure that this concept can be skewed or manipulated in other ways anyway.  For instance, I&#039;ve been told that American Express doesn&#039;t report to certain agencies.  Does Amex debt (or Amex credit) negatively affect you the way other credit card debt would?  Maybe not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether true or not, I&#8217;m fairly sure that this concept can be skewed or manipulated in other ways anyway.  For instance, I&#8217;ve been told that American Express doesn&#8217;t report to certain agencies.  Does Amex debt (or Amex credit) negatively affect you the way other credit card debt would?  Maybe not.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the rep referred to FICO scores I think her advice is backwards as part of what is looked at is percentage of debt to available balance. If you lower your limit the debt:availability ratio increases thus decreasing your FICO score.

My recommendation? Save some cash and put down at least a 20% (you&#039;ll avoid PMI) towards a fixed rate 15 year note. Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the rep referred to FICO scores I think her advice is backwards as part of what is looked at is percentage of debt to available balance. If you lower your limit the debt:availability ratio increases thus decreasing your FICO score.</p>
<p>My recommendation? Save some cash and put down at least a 20% (you&#8217;ll avoid PMI) towards a fixed rate 15 year note. Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think your customer rep was correct.  Between my husband and I, we have no less than a dozen credit cards.  I use three of mine on a daily basis as I pay for everything with a credit card.  My husband does the same thing except he tends to spread his purchases out onto 6 or 7 cards.  My credit limit alone is $60,000 and three of my cards are fairly new accounts (two less than 1 year old).  My husband is 30 years older than I am and has had some of his cards longer than I&#039;ve been alive.  I can&#039;t even imagine what his total credit limit is.

For all that credit and all the charges we make, we carry no credit card debt.  Each and every card gets paid off in full every billing cycle.

When we bought a house almost 6 years ago, we had absolutely no trouble qualifying for a loan.  In fact, we qualified for over three times the house we ended up buying (we paid $225,000 for a solid but humble 2,300sf abode in the &#039;burbs).

I don&#039;t know exactly what our FICO score is but I know it&#039;s excellent (I seem to remember it was in the 800&#039;s. Is that possible?).  In June of 07 we bought a new car and financed it because they were offering 1.9% financing for two years.  We could have paid cash but at that interest rate, we actually earned money by taking the financing.

Anyway, my point is that I&#039;d guess our total available credit exceeds our annual income still lenders tend to fall over themselves when we ask for credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think your customer rep was correct.  Between my husband and I, we have no less than a dozen credit cards.  I use three of mine on a daily basis as I pay for everything with a credit card.  My husband does the same thing except he tends to spread his purchases out onto 6 or 7 cards.  My credit limit alone is $60,000 and three of my cards are fairly new accounts (two less than 1 year old).  My husband is 30 years older than I am and has had some of his cards longer than I&#8217;ve been alive.  I can&#8217;t even imagine what his total credit limit is.</p>
<p>For all that credit and all the charges we make, we carry no credit card debt.  Each and every card gets paid off in full every billing cycle.</p>
<p>When we bought a house almost 6 years ago, we had absolutely no trouble qualifying for a loan.  In fact, we qualified for over three times the house we ended up buying (we paid $225,000 for a solid but humble 2,300sf abode in the &#8216;burbs).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know exactly what our FICO score is but I know it&#8217;s excellent (I seem to remember it was in the 800&#8217;s. Is that possible?).  In June of 07 we bought a new car and financed it because they were offering 1.9% financing for two years.  We could have paid cash but at that interest rate, we actually earned money by taking the financing.</p>
<p>Anyway, my point is that I&#8217;d guess our total available credit exceeds our annual income still lenders tend to fall over themselves when we ask for credit.</p>
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		<title>By: marci</title>
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		<dc:creator>marci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t affect my credit score nor my score for new car insurance.

But as I haven&#039;t applied for any loans, (nor intend to apply), nor have a mortgage,  I have no clue how that is working these days.

Interesting thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t affect my credit score nor my score for new car insurance.</p>
<p>But as I haven&#8217;t applied for any loans, (nor intend to apply), nor have a mortgage,  I have no clue how that is working these days.</p>
<p>Interesting thought.</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyMateKate</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoneyMateKate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to live in the UK, and they definitely took credit limits/availability as well as balances into consideration. I figured that, given the ease of getting a mortgage in this country until a few months ago, US banks didn&#039;t have this criterion. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a bad thing. 

I remember another criterion too: the maximum they would lend is a multiple of your gross income (3-4x), though in 2000 they were starting to get fancy with Bayesian theories (to take in factors like job stability and likely progression...crazy-hard mathematics).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to live in the UK, and they definitely took credit limits/availability as well as balances into consideration. I figured that, given the ease of getting a mortgage in this country until a few months ago, US banks didn&#8217;t have this criterion. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a bad thing. </p>
<p>I remember another criterion too: the maximum they would lend is a multiple of your gross income (3-4x), though in 2000 they were starting to get fancy with Bayesian theories (to take in factors like job stability and likely progression&#8230;crazy-hard mathematics).</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Huang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Huang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...I don&#039;t think this is true.  The higher your credit limit is, the better, from what I&#039;ve been told.  It&#039;s also posted online.  If you have a $500 balance and your credit limit is high, the ratio is a lot lower, so your score is higher and better.  Of course having no balance is even better :D

-Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;I don&#8217;t think this is true.  The higher your credit limit is, the better, from what I&#8217;ve been told.  It&#8217;s also posted online.  If you have a $500 balance and your credit limit is high, the ratio is a lot lower, so your score is higher and better.  Of course having no balance is even better <img src='http://moneyning.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-Mike</p>
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